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  • Christy32
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    02:35, May 24, 2014

    Anyone vote for Rick finally says in front of the entire 12th pricinct "Enough lies, Dad!"?

    I mean, Hunt has played god for too long, his son is about to get married, his whole family has been forged into weapons, more or less. Plus, I don't think his espionage work is gonna get any further now, and still he refuses to reunite with his son, his wife and granddaughter. What? Think they wouldn't accept his return? Sounds like Jefferson from OUaT is getting a partner.

    What the bloody hell???

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    • Played God? Forged into weapons?! WIFE?! Where is this coming from? Feels like you watched the promo, but not the show

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    • First, I didn't expect anyone to reply. I thought it was "another stone thrown into the ocean".

      Look, when Rick said to Hunt, "dad?" Hunt said, "not a word." Seriously? He's playing "high-end" on his own son? After everything they been through in Paris? That is what I call "play god". It's a little exaggerating, but when it comes to family, I take it very seriously. I saw a little bit of myself from Fillion's Rick Castle in some way.

      About "forging into weapons", I quoted Arrow, where Oliver Queen said he must "forge himself into a weapon". I meant all of Rick's family members know how to defend themselves; Alexis knows how to fence, and Martha has wisdom, and Rick is the special one.

      And yes, Martha is Hunt's wife, though not legally married, maybe I should say "partner". She's Rick's mother, and Hunt's Rick's father.

      So, yes. I meant everything I said. And I am a family man. I hate those who don't show respect to their family, and that, as of now, includes Jackson Hunt.

      What the bloody hell???

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    • Does the word "undercover" mean nothing to you? Telling someone to not blow your identity while on a mission is a pretty understandable thing to do. Playing god, please.

      How is Alexis' fencing skills Hunt's fault, exactly? Do you honestly think he's been manipulating their lives the entire time? Forged into weapons is a staggeringly extreme leap in logic. I think someone needs to calm down and think.

      No, being the mother of his child is not the same as being his wife. They were never married, the end.

      And for fuck's sake: did you not listen to Hunt's exposition in his debut episode? He CAN'T reunite with them. It isn't that he "refused," he is bound by law to not associate with any of them.

      Use some simple logic before you start grand-standing like a lunatic.

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    • 50.53.110.243 wrote:
      Does the word "undercover" mean nothing to you? Telling someone to not blow your identity while on a mission is a pretty understandable thing to do. Playing god, please.

      How is Alexis' fencing skills Hunt's fault, exactly? Do you honestly think he's been manipulating their lives the entire time? Forged into weapons is a staggeringly extreme leap in logic. I think someone needs to calm down and think.

      No, being the mother of his child is not the same as being his wife. They were never married, the end.

      And for fuck's sake: did you not listen to Hunt's exposition in his debut episode? He CAN'T reunite with them. It isn't that he "refused," he is bound by law to not associate with any of them.

      Use some simple logic before you start grand-standing like a lunatic.

      I agree with you. you don't need to married now these days unless you are country that make feel in shame for not being married. This user should use some simple logic and respect here.

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    • Thanks. Its nice to know other people agree. ^_^

      Reading that again makes me feel a little embarrassed: I sound pretty rude, but I mean everything I said.

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    • Look, either Harbinger3781 knows very little about the show and judging from the sheer ignorance of some of his comments, also knows little about the real world, or he is just trolling.

      Should the former be the case, in addition to what has been said in the other reponses, it has been mentioned many times during the 117 episodes thus far that Castle was the result of a one night stand between his father and Martha. I don't care how much of a family man you are, if you believe that a one night stand makes someone your wife, you are an idiot. This episode is only the second time that both Martha and Castle even meet this man, so to call him their family is rediculous. Also, Castle may be the son of "Jackson Hunt," but Castle does not even know his father's real name (in episode #515 Jackson Hunt tells Castle upon meeting him that Jackson Hunt is a fake name). So once again, they are not Hunt's family. Personally, I am adopted, and my family are the people who have been there during my life, not the people whom I do not know but happen to share a biological link to.

      I hate those who don't think before they run their mouths about topics which they know jack shit about, and that, as of now, includes Harbinger3781.

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    • Guys, this "rambling" just provided me an excellent idea!

      Check this out - I drew it today.

      Wed Feb 19 19-45-46













      Maybe I should have posted it on the fan fiction. But you see this??? See the other guy's costumes? Recognized where it is from? Rewatching episode 4-19, my mind suddenly jumped from Richard to Ezio, the two memories merged, and then this drawing came out, and later this:

      "I'm Richard Castle. In public, I live in New York, I'm a mystery writer, best known for the Derrick Storm and the Nikki Heat novels, and better known for my womanizing skills. I'm currently engaged to New York police detective Katherine Beckett.

      "In private, however, I'm in the Order of the High Assassins. And just like my father and my mother, I am an assassin."

      Call me crazy, but the way I see it personally, it's perfect.

      Richard Castle and his parents were all from the Order of the High Assassins - the renowned writer was a public identity. It also explained his accurate marksmanship and blademaster skills (see: Castle fire at a target in 107 and 301, and wield a sword in 606). And that could be why Hunt couldn't come home, because he was downgraded from a High Asssassin to a government assassin for failing to kill a prime target (maybe Jerry Tyson). He was expelled but was put on secret probation, and lost all the High Assassin support. Then he entered the dangerous field of espionage. High Assassins don't have enemies - or none in New York, but government assassins for CIA? They are not quite secure, aren't they?

      And did anyone noticed the brief look Hunt had before he bolted in the last scene? While everyone else think it was a pity that he couldn't come home to Martha, I thought, "What did he see or hear that made him leave?" I pictured a shadowy figure suddenly flashed behind Hunt, and he heard it and left.

      For now, no one knew about Jackson Hunt's whereabouts, so I pictured him with his mentor - the one I drew - perching on a New York skyscraper and they are watching Richard from afar as he makes his metamorphosis to maturity.

      Satisfied with my "ramblings"? If interested, there's plenty more where it came from.

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    • You're... not serious, right?

      Not once have we been given any indication that Martha is in the Order, what's more, she only knew Hunt for a single night, certainly not long enough to be swept into it by associating with him. And the idea that both of his parents are in the Order by sheer coincidence is ridiculous; besides, they would probably have known eachother if they were.

      And if Richard was a part of the Order, I *think* we would have received a few hints beyond his marksmanship and sword play; both of which are easily explained in non-"crazy beyond all belief and credibility" ways: writing about people using guns, Richard practiced shooting to give his scenes an authentic feel, just like he does for EVERYTHING else. Sword play is probably the same: research for a book. It could even be because of Alexis and her fencing.

      Not to mention, as an Assassin, he'd be obligated to disappear for long stretches at a time, something people would have noticed. You know, like his fiance?

      Hunt can't "come home" because he's an active agent: he's literally not allowed to. Do some freaking research before you get excited over nothing. He technically doesn't even exist.

      "Downgraded from High Assassin to government assassin" is psychotic: you don't just go from being a secret member of a, ancient, non-listed orginization to a ultra-secret black ops division of one of the world's largest Superpower's government.

      High Assassins don't have enemies? Really? They're in the business of killing people, and you don't think they'd have enemies? Enemies that couldn't track them and, I don't know, hop on a plane to get him? Use your head.

      Hunt is human, and news flash: he actually cares about his kid. It was resentment that he can never be with his son or his lover, not some "shadowy figure" that seemingly comes out of nowhere.

      No, we're not satisfied by your ramblings, because they're cliche, shallow, and have more holes than collender. Please refrain from sharing any more, at least not here: wikis don't exist to be flooded with Fanfic ideas.

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    • Fair enough. I won't do it here anymore.

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    • 50.53.90.168 wrote:

      Hunt can't "come home" because he's an active agent: he's literally not allowed to. Do some freaking research before you get excited over nothing. He technically doesn't even exist.

      W-w-w-w-wait... "Active agent"? He's still employed by the government? I thought the show said he's an assassin-for-hire mercenary or some sort.

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    • 50.53.90.168 wrote:

      No, we're not satisfied by your ramblings, because they're cliche, shallow, and have more holes than collender. Please refrain from sharing any more, at least not here: wikis don't exist to be flooded with Fanfic ideas.

      You don't like my "ramblings" because they are just parts and pieces in my head. They are only concepts. Once I clean out the timeline and make the whole origin story, you'll see how amazing my "rambling" can become.

      Don't believe me? Check Grimm forum. General discussion. Chapter "Nick's second proposal?" I wrote that short story.

      Still, for someone who flunked his junior high art class. my drawing was not bad, no?

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    • 50.53.90.168 wrote:

      High Assassins don't have enemies? Really? They're in the business of killing people, and you don't think they'd have enemies? Enemies that couldn't track them and, I don't know, hop on a plane to get him? Use your head.

      After "Assassin's Creed" era, I believe we all should give the term "Assassin" new definitions. Sure, they kill people, but in my opinion, they also serve as guardians. Assassins come in different ranks. Physical, intellectual, tactical. My version?n Richard Castle belongs with the intellectual ones. Don't ask.

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    • 50.53.90.168 wrote:

      No, we're not satisfied by your ramblings, because they're cliche, shallow, and have more holes than collender. Please refrain from sharing any more, at least not here: wikis don't exist to be flooded with Fanfic ideas.

      I just wanted to say that what you said was mean. I understand if you think that, but it's very rude to call someone's idea "cliche, shallow, and more holes than collender". Someone was brave enough to post a question on the internet, and you all just shoot it down? That's ridiculous. How can you criticize someone's art like that? Would you like it if someone said that to you? Could you post a drawing on this site? I wouldn't, it would probably be called shallow. You know what? You're shallow.

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